What does wildness mean to us - and what can it mean when it is defined not by a few people, but rewritten for all of us? Guest J. Drew Lanham is an ornithologist, wildlife ecologist, poet, professor, author, and lover of birds. This conversation looks at how a new conservation can be inclusive for all people, and how care for humans, nature, and animals like birds are connected.

How can we deepen our care and respect for our family of creatures on this wondrous planet? How can we truly feel a sense of belonging here? How can we be better kin?

Gavin Van Horn and John Hausdoerffer, who along with Robin Wall Kimmerer co-edited Kinship: Belonging in a World of Relations, join Reseed for a conversation about kinship.